"12. On the issue of flip-flops and the failure of witness message of doom, it maybe due to lack of understanding of the scripture at that time. Every day, new understanding is perceived. Remember 2 Peter 3:16 "
I'm surprised that you acknowledge flip-flop teachings (their biggest Achilles heel in my opinion) but did you know that the Watchtower goes so far as to deny them?
"At times explanations given by Jehovah’s visible organization have shown adjustments, seemingly to previous points of view. But this has not actually been the case." The Watchtower, 1981, 12/1 p. 27
The Great Watchtower Contradiction exposes flip-flop reversals of a single Watchtower teaching to the count of not once or twice -- but seven times. It's a free online essay that'll take some 11 minutes of your reading time. Make sure you certify each Watchtower publication quotation with your own Watchtower library CD.
They are either ignorant of Contradiction or blatantly and dishonestly put it aside. In either case, the spirit direction their governing body is getting is clearly not the same as the one to which it lays claim.
Len Miller
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FatFreek 2005
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How would you answer these questions that came to me in an email through my website? ...
by AndersonsInfo inmany emails are sent to me through my website, watchtowerdocuments.com.
all are answered.
remember 1corinthians 6: 1-2 (i'll answer this question.
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After 44 years I finally found and spoke to my old prison buddy!
by Terry ini have had very few mentors in my life.
i love each of them dearly.. one such was a man a bit older than me named tollie padget.. .
tollie was the rarest of rare birds.
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What a sad testament to the society's dictatorship and hold it has over people. Of the some 70,000 victims who annually make their way out of its clutches it seems that more often than not they are still feeling guilt from having left their perception of so-called truth.
You and I and many on this forum have come to the conclusion that truth does not necessarily set one free. More it seems it's the unfettered realization of all that man-made dogma that we were spoon fed.Thanks to modern computer technology we now realize that watchtower teachings are rich with contradictions. google the online essay entitled The Great Watchtower Contradiction.
Len
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Predictions from 50 yrs ago
by rebel8 inmany came true.
http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/03/23/lifetimes/asi-v-fair.html.
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FatFreek 2005
I felt that his humility became his best quality as he launched his remarkable glimpse of 2014.
"I don't know, but I can guess."
Len
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Are you a sheep or sheepdog?
by yadda yadda 2 inas a jw you are taught to accept a black-and-white worldview that portrays people as either submissive sheep or rebellious goats.
you could be classified as either a sheep or dangerous wolf in sheep's clothing.. although it is good to be teachable and gentle in our human affairs, adopting the mental attitude of being a helpless, submissive, unquestioning sheep is not a desirable human trait at all.
in fact, it can be downright dangerous.. although the linked article below is mostly aimed for blokes the principles are equally applicable to everyone.. don't fall victim to group-think phenomenon such as 'the bystander effect' and 'normalcy bias'.
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Hello everyone! I could use some advice
by SnailsPace2 inmost of the time i just lurk .
lots of times throughout the day.
however, something has come up that i would like some advice on, especially from members who were exiting the jw religion with young children.. .
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FatFreek 2005
He is also starting to ask questions about why I dont attend the meetings anymore.
Good for him. It is ironic that your son is six and that there at least two yearbook examples of six-year olds that have been baptized -- which shows the society's position on the matter. That's awfully close to infant baptism, in my opinion.
I believe he's old enough, however, to under this 11 minute read (for grown-ups). At least, the concept of it all. Called The Great Watchtower Contradiction, it's mild enough for new ones to understand -- strong enough to give even the most seasoned JW serious pause.
Len
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Tech49 visits Bethel: Part 1-Patterson
by Tech49 ini thought that it was a good time to post my experience about visiting new york last spring.
enough time has passed that no one can put my experiences together with any kind of timeline..... so our family discussed the trip to the holy land (ny bethel), as none of us had ever been.
anyone who is anyone knows that you aren't really a good jw christian until you visit bethel!
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FatFreek 2005
Tell us a little about the museum. Anything there that can be misconstrued as idolism -- photographs of principals of old -- Russell, Rutherford, Father Miller (yes, he was referred to as Father as late as 1926 or so), Knorr, Franz, etc.
Len
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Where you the door knocker encourager in your congregation?
by jam into be honest i figured until i received some pleasure, enjoyment.
in waking people up on their day off, there was no way i was going.
to pressure anyone else to do the same.
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FatFreek 2005
Hey, Stand for Pure Worship. A lifesaving work is it? Here's a question for you. Are you still teaching the Watchtower contradiction found here? That's a link to The Great Watchtower Contradiction
Len
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"Truth expiry date July 2017" -- this a Youtube joke?
by FatFreek 2005 ini just stumbled on this youtube video of some 1 minute in length.
the originator says he found this by chance when thumbing through the jan 1, 2012 watchtower magazine.
at the bottom of the last page the statement reads, "truth expiry date july 2017".
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FatFreek 2005
If someone has that issue of the Watchtower, posting a scan would be appreciated by all. At the very least, report on what you see -- or don't see to confirm what we see in the video -- or NOT. If not, the poster has done a great disservice to all. We don't need a hoax to show that Watchtower is a cult and is full of contradictions and lies.
Len
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"Truth expiry date July 2017" -- this a Youtube joke?
by FatFreek 2005 ini just stumbled on this youtube video of some 1 minute in length.
the originator says he found this by chance when thumbing through the jan 1, 2012 watchtower magazine.
at the bottom of the last page the statement reads, "truth expiry date july 2017".
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FatFreek 2005
I just stumbled on this Youtube video of some 1 minute in length. The originator says he found this by chance when thumbing through the Jan 1, 2012 Watchtower magazine. At the bottom of the last page the statement reads, "truth expiry date July 2017". Shortly following his expose of that statement, a little window pops up which says, "this was not serious".
What do you make of it?
Lenps: you'll have to copy and paste the link in your browser field as my Chrome editor in JWN won't allow me to paste links.